Praise for Lancashire's special constables

HUNDREDS of unpaid special constables have been praised by their boss for delivering 125,000 hours of service over the last year - equivalent to more than £2.5 million pounds of policing.

During 2013, Lancashire’s 459 Special Constables seized 2,874 litres of alcohol from under-age drinkers, made 2,059 checks of licensed premises, responded to 1,300 crime inquiries, made 1,013 ‘reassurance visits’ and seized 13 vehicles.

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11:45am Sun 5 Jan 14

HarryBosch says...

Given the swathing cuts that this government is perpetrating to the Police, we are going to have to rely more than ever on people who are prepared to give up their time in order to protect the communities in which we live. So we owe these specials our thanks for stepping up to the plate. I said in a comments post some time ago that it's no use whinging about crime in our communities but that those who are willing and able might want to consider joining the special constabulary and helping to keep us all that bit safer.So to all those specials - thanks and well done.
Given the swathing cuts that this government is perpetrating to the Police, we are going to have to rely more than ever on people who are prepared to give up their time in order to protect the communities in which we live. So we owe these specials our thanks for stepping up to the plate. I said in a comments post some time ago that it's no use whinging about crime in our communities but that those who are willing and able might want to consider joining the special constabulary and helping to keep us all that bit safer.So to all those specials - thanks and well done. HarryBosch
  • Score: 8

6:21pm Sun 5 Jan 14

mavrick says...

Policing on the cheap, What next? vigilanteism? this unelected coalition has no mandate to cut public services like they have. Lets hope people realise this is the price of apathy.
Policing on the cheap, What next? vigilanteism? this unelected coalition has no mandate to cut public services like they have. Lets hope people realise this is the price of apathy. mavrick
  • Score: -9

8:27pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Malthus says...

HarryBosch wrote:
Given the swathing cuts that this government is perpetrating to the Police, we are going to have to rely more than ever on people who are prepared to give up their time in order to protect the communities in which we live. So we owe these specials our thanks for stepping up to the plate. I said in a comments post some time ago that it's no use whinging about crime in our communities but that those who are willing and able might want to consider joining the special constabulary and helping to keep us all that bit safer.So to all those specials - thanks and well done.
Whatever reason people give for becoming special constables I am sure that if you were ever to be the victim of a crime, (be it against your person or your property), you would not be as accommodating if a "special" turned up in your hour of need Mr Bosch. I am almost certain that you would voice the same prejudices I have if an unqualified person were to arrive on the scene and offer me nothing other than platitudes. You would demand not only a qualified detective you would also want those qualified people to have access to the databases and forensic support that only adequately qualified police personnel should have. The sooner we all stand up and say no to second best policing and the enforcement of the rule of law the better. Some people may argue where is the money, well I would argue that when money is no longer there to provide public funded police enforcement to all sections of the community and we are are forced to rely on a voluntary or corporate bodies to maintain society's rules then Law and Order as we know it, no longer exists in this country.
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: Given the swathing cuts that this government is perpetrating to the Police, we are going to have to rely more than ever on people who are prepared to give up their time in order to protect the communities in which we live. So we owe these specials our thanks for stepping up to the plate. I said in a comments post some time ago that it's no use whinging about crime in our communities but that those who are willing and able might want to consider joining the special constabulary and helping to keep us all that bit safer.So to all those specials - thanks and well done.[/p][/quote]Whatever reason people give for becoming special constables I am sure that if you were ever to be the victim of a crime, (be it against your person or your property), you would not be as accommodating if a "special" turned up in your hour of need Mr Bosch. I am almost certain that you would voice the same prejudices I have if an unqualified person were to arrive on the scene and offer me nothing other than platitudes. You would demand not only a qualified detective you would also want those qualified people to have access to the databases and forensic support that only adequately qualified police personnel should have. The sooner we all stand up and say no to second best policing and the enforcement of the rule of law the better. Some people may argue where is the money, well I would argue that when money is no longer there to provide public funded police enforcement to all sections of the community and we are are forced to rely on a voluntary or corporate bodies to maintain society's rules then Law and Order as we know it, no longer exists in this country. Malthus
  • Score: -8

8:53pm Sun 5 Jan 14

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Malthus wrote:
HarryBosch wrote:
Given the swathing cuts that this government is perpetrating to the Police, we are going to have to rely more than ever on people who are prepared to give up their time in order to protect the communities in which we live. So we owe these specials our thanks for stepping up to the plate. I said in a comments post some time ago that it's no use whinging about crime in our communities but that those who are willing and able might want to consider joining the special constabulary and helping to keep us all that bit safer.So to all those specials - thanks and well done.
Whatever reason people give for becoming special constables I am sure that if you were ever to be the victim of a crime, (be it against your person or your property), you would not be as accommodating if a "special" turned up in your hour of need Mr Bosch. I am almost certain that you would voice the same prejudices I have if an unqualified person were to arrive on the scene and offer me nothing other than platitudes. You would demand not only a qualified detective you would also want those qualified people to have access to the databases and forensic support that only adequately qualified police personnel should have. The sooner we all stand up and say no to second best policing and the enforcement of the rule of law the better. Some people may argue where is the money, well I would argue that when money is no longer there to provide public funded police enforcement to all sections of the community and we are are forced to rely on a voluntary or corporate bodies to maintain society's rules then Law and Order as we know it, no longer exists in this country.
It depends what crime you have been a victim of. If you had your head kicked in and sustained serious injuries then you would probably get a qualified detective. If some yobs had merely thrown eggs at your windows or you had been the victim of low level crime then why would you protest at a special constable turning up at your door?

Specials are sworn constables with the same powers as regular constables, granted they don't receive the same intensity of training that regular officers do but some put in more hours than regular cops so you may well find a special turning up who has more experience.

And why does law and order as we know it no longer exist in this country ? You are being more than a bit over dramatic on that one.
[quote][p][bold]Malthus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: Given the swathing cuts that this government is perpetrating to the Police, we are going to have to rely more than ever on people who are prepared to give up their time in order to protect the communities in which we live. So we owe these specials our thanks for stepping up to the plate. I said in a comments post some time ago that it's no use whinging about crime in our communities but that those who are willing and able might want to consider joining the special constabulary and helping to keep us all that bit safer.So to all those specials - thanks and well done.[/p][/quote]Whatever reason people give for becoming special constables I am sure that if you were ever to be the victim of a crime, (be it against your person or your property), you would not be as accommodating if a "special" turned up in your hour of need Mr Bosch. I am almost certain that you would voice the same prejudices I have if an unqualified person were to arrive on the scene and offer me nothing other than platitudes. You would demand not only a qualified detective you would also want those qualified people to have access to the databases and forensic support that only adequately qualified police personnel should have. The sooner we all stand up and say no to second best policing and the enforcement of the rule of law the better. Some people may argue where is the money, well I would argue that when money is no longer there to provide public funded police enforcement to all sections of the community and we are are forced to rely on a voluntary or corporate bodies to maintain society's rules then Law and Order as we know it, no longer exists in this country.[/p][/quote]It depends what crime you have been a victim of. If you had your head kicked in and sustained serious injuries then you would probably get a qualified detective. If some yobs had merely thrown eggs at your windows or you had been the victim of low level crime then why would you protest at a special constable turning up at your door? Specials are sworn constables with the same powers as regular constables, granted they don't receive the same intensity of training that regular officers do but some put in more hours than regular cops so you may well find a special turning up who has more experience. And why does law and order as we know it no longer exist in this country ? You are being more than a bit over dramatic on that one. You're not mugging me off that easily
  • Score: 5

9:18pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Barb-Dwyer says...

the police are cutting jobs left right and centre but only at lower levels. would it make more sense to keep the 'hobby bobby'' as just that and let people keep their income? whilst free labour is been given jobs cuts will just rise.

the same thing is happening in the army as well
the police are cutting jobs left right and centre but only at lower levels. would it make more sense to keep the 'hobby bobby'' as just that and let people keep their income? whilst free labour is been given jobs cuts will just rise. the same thing is happening in the army as well Barb-Dwyer
  • Score: 4

7:27am Mon 6 Jan 14

HarryBosch says...

In answer to Malthus - Specials receive the same training and have the same powers as regular officers. Their main duties include - carrying out local patrols, taking part in crime reduction projects, challenging anti social behaviour and helping to police local events.
If you were the victim of a crime then I am confident that a detective would be assigned to investigate. The value of the specials is in freeing up regular officers who can then be deployed in critical areas. If you read the article you will see the results of their efforts. They are a very valuable asset with a valuable role to play. As I said previously, we can sit in the comfort of our homes and bemoan the current state of affairs or those who are able can step up to the plate and do something about it.
In answer to Malthus - Specials receive the same training and have the same powers as regular officers. Their main duties include - carrying out local patrols, taking part in crime reduction projects, challenging anti social behaviour and helping to police local events. If you were the victim of a crime then I am confident that a detective would be assigned to investigate. The value of the specials is in freeing up regular officers who can then be deployed in critical areas. If you read the article you will see the results of their efforts. They are a very valuable asset with a valuable role to play. As I said previously, we can sit in the comfort of our homes and bemoan the current state of affairs or those who are able can step up to the plate and do something about it. HarryBosch
  • Score: 3

5:43pm Mon 6 Jan 14

nickjohn says...

I support anyone who is prepared to get up off their back side and do something to make a difference. The problem with society today is too many people sit back and moan about things instead of being part of a solution.

Yes the government are making cuts which hurt but that is the price you have to pay for spending money you do not have and for giving hand outs left right and centre and getting nothing back, the gravy train could never go on for ever.
I support anyone who is prepared to get up off their back side and do something to make a difference. The problem with society today is too many people sit back and moan about things instead of being part of a solution. Yes the government are making cuts which hurt but that is the price you have to pay for spending money you do not have and for giving hand outs left right and centre and getting nothing back, the gravy train could never go on for ever. nickjohn
  • Score: 6

1:03pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Kendal Jock says...

nickjohn wrote:
I support anyone who is prepared to get up off their back side and do something to make a difference. The problem with society today is too many people sit back and moan about things instead of being part of a solution.

Yes the government are making cuts which hurt but that is the price you have to pay for spending money you do not have and for giving hand outs left right and centre and getting nothing back, the gravy train could never go on for ever.
Hear! Hear!
[quote][p][bold]nickjohn[/bold] wrote: I support anyone who is prepared to get up off their back side and do something to make a difference. The problem with society today is too many people sit back and moan about things instead of being part of a solution. Yes the government are making cuts which hurt but that is the price you have to pay for spending money you do not have and for giving hand outs left right and centre and getting nothing back, the gravy train could never go on for ever.[/p][/quote]Hear! Hear! Kendal Jock
  • Score: 0

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