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Attack man 'now stable but poorly'

4:16pm Sunday 24th February 2008

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A PRESTON man was today described as 'stable but poorly' after being assaulted outside a Darwen pub last night.

He was initially said to be critically ill after the incident in Church Street, Darwen, at 11.50pm on Saturday.

But today his condition improved to "stable but poorly".

He was transferred from the Royal Blackburn to the Royal Preston Hospital for more specialist treatment on a head injury.

A 19-year-old Darwen man has been arrested in connection with the incident and was being questioned by detectives today.

Police were called to reports of an incident outside the Bridgewater pub and discovered a man, 43, from Preston, unconscious on the pavement.

Officers said he had been out on a friend's 21st birthday when he was attacked.

There was no indication a weapon had been used, officers added.

It is believed there had been a fight near the bus station involving a number of people which the victim became caught up in.

Police are appealing for any witnesses to come forward.

Det Sgt Mick Cross, of Darwen CID, said: "We believe an altercation occurred near to the bus station on Saturday night involving a number of individuals.

"At this stage we are not sure exactly how many people were involved.

"The man was in the town with a number of friends and we are carrying out a thorough investigation in to the incident.

"There is no indication that the attack was inside the pub and we believe it was outside.

"There was no mention of weapons having been used in the attack and we would welcome any information anybody might have in relation to the incident."

Anyone with information can ring 0845 1253545 or Crimestoppers - anonymously and free - on 0800 555111.


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paul, darwen says...
10:27am Sun 24 Feb 08

people get into fights not thinking of the consequences,maybe the loss of life the loss of freedom people loseing loved ones.and remember its not always how you hit someone its how they fall.

gollom, middle earth says...
1:11pm Sun 24 Feb 08

tragic article one thing i'm puzzled about is why the police have sealed the whole bus station off when the incident alledgly took place outside the bridgewater.if the attack was outside the bridgewater and that is the true crime scene why were the staff allowed to wash down the pavement this morning ?

Mick, Darwen says...
6:17pm Sun 24 Feb 08

Another night of shame for Darwen.
I dont go round Darwen anymore because of the young trouble makers that are in the pubs.
Im not worried about my safety to much but if i was to get in a fight with some of this scum and you slapped one who ended up hurt gues who would be in the nick!
They should raise the age of pub goers in Darwen or some of the pubs to 25 +.
Regular patrols on the streets and up to date radio's between doormaen who can radio any trouble in advance.
There are plenty of cctv cameras around that area so im sure the scum that attacked this chap will get caught.
Get them sent inside or down the local boxing club where decent lads will be ready for a good scrap.
these youngsters are a set of ****!!!

billy, darwen says...
7:22pm Sun 24 Feb 08

no 1 know the full story properly

Smee again, Darwen says...
7:23pm Sun 24 Feb 08

Mick wrote:
Another night of shame for Darwen. I dont go round Darwen anymore because of the young trouble makers that are in the pubs. Im not worried about my safety to much but if i was to get in a fight with some of this scum and you slapped one who ended up hurt gues who would be in the nick! They should raise the age of pub goers in Darwen or some of the pubs to 25 +. Regular patrols on the streets and up to date radio's between doormaen who can radio any trouble in advance. There are plenty of cctv cameras around that area so im sure the scum that attacked this chap will get caught. Get them sent inside or down the local boxing club where decent lads will be ready for a good scrap. these youngsters are a set of ****!!!
Whilst I would love to agree with you Mick you have to ask the question is it fair to punish people under 25 who just like to go out for a night out and enjoy themselves (and there's quite a lot of them), it's just a small bunch of wasters who spoil it for other folk. I totally agree with you concerning anyone slapping them, they are then off crying to their parents who in turn cry to the police. Talking of the parents where are they whilst their so called little angels are out terrorizing the community?

paul, darwen says...
7:37pm Sun 24 Feb 08

billy wrote:
no 1 know the full story properly
well billy,if you know the full story you should be talking to the police and not this forum.

ivy, darwen town centre says...
8:45pm Sun 24 Feb 08

A lot of people are talking and assuming that their version of what happened is the right one when in fact no-one can know all the facts,at this time.I agree the age limit could be raised , but not all the young ones are at fault in fact most people, young or old are decent law abiding citizens.There is always a small number who spoil it for everyone. How about we start praising the good ones instead of slagging off the the bad minority.Perhaps this will encourage the bad ones to improve,and put somethin good back into the community

ivy, darwen town centre says...
9:30pm Sun 24 Feb 08

pohaku,do you go about your business with your eyes closed, if you cared enough you would see far more decent people than the chavscum that you seem to be in favour of spotting,open your eyes next time you might be pleasantly surprised

Tower, on t'moors says...
9:41pm Sun 24 Feb 08

ivy wrote:
pohaku,do you go about your business with your eyes closed, if you cared enough you would see far more decent people than the chavscum that you seem to be in favour of spotting,open your eyes next time you might be pleasantly surprised
Ivy, its a sad fact of life that this once proud town is now overrun with feral under 25s that can't enjoy a sociable night out unless they are kicking 10 bells out of some decent person who either objected to their behaviour or was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I pray for the day that the decent folk of Darwen stand together as one and say enough is enough. These toy town gangsters are ruining a once decent place for a night out. To the injured man and his friends and family I hope he makes a full recovery. Good Luck from one of the few decent folk left in Darwen.

billy, says...
9:51pm Sun 24 Feb 08

i didnt say i new the full story, and no i dont fink it is ok wot happened to that guy. so dont make me out 2 be a bad person

darwen girl, Darwen says...
10:39pm Sun 24 Feb 08

I would just like to say that Darwen should not have an age restriction on it. I have been going out in the town since I was 18 and if people could handle their alcohol then none of this would happen.

From going out in Darwen for over ten years I can honestly say that it is all ages that cause the trouble and the fights.

I feel for the family for the man that has been injured, there are alot of rumours going around and most of them are not true.

Like any fellow Darwen citizen I do agree that the town is getting worse. The door men do a good job, if they sense trouble they do act - would you get involved with all the people that there is meant to have been or left it to the police - remember door men dont get paid to sort trouble out on the streets but to make sure people are safe in the pubs.

It used to be safe, have a good night out and every thing would be alright - there is no need for violence and definatly to this extent

********, great harwood says...
9:24am Mon 25 Feb 08

I have been round Darwen once. and i would never come again. I was stared at like i was an outsider even though a friend i was with lived in Darwen, I alsoo work here,on the night out the first pub i went in my coat was stolen whilst i was in the toilet! the place is a dive full of druggies and loseres. but to be fair it aint just darwen most towns round here are the exact same, i wont even go round my local town anymore casue of the chavs and fighting and drugs!!

Darwen Girl 22, Darwen says...
9:57am Mon 25 Feb 08

i think a lot of people are taring people with the same brush, age limit to go to 25 thats not fair, and saying that all darwen is scum is a bit harsh. i know that town has its idiots who cant handle beer but that doesnt mean none of us can. As for walking through town during the day and there is 'chavscum' everywhere thats also a bit harsh. i agree there are lots of lazy people who cant be bothered to work knocking about but thats just England lately, this country is going to pot not just Darwen! I have worked and studied hard since i left school and was recently on maternity leave from work and the looks i used to get when i walked through town pushing my pram were prob from the likes of 'Scum breeds scum'
there are plenty of good people in Darwen but also idiots but thats everywhere these days not just Darwen. I sincerley hope that the injured man is ok and my thoughts are with him and his family but lets not let these idiots doing these things give us all a bad name.

tom, darwen says...
10:11am Mon 25 Feb 08

i can see that there is a lot of people fed up with the 'seemy underbelly' of darwen but lets face it theres 30 odd thousand of us and youd have to say less than 1 percent of that is made up of idiots who are out to harm others, you can still have a pleasant night out in darwen there are plenty of pubs packed out with locals who wont stand for trouble in their pub seems a shame to tar everywhere with the same brush. oh and im a 24 yr old alcoholic dolescum but thankfully not a chav, cant wait till i hit that magic 25 and become a benefit to society:)

Ian the Beancounter, Darwen says...
11:50am Mon 25 Feb 08

Darwen Girl 22 wrote:
i think a lot of people are taring people with the same brush, age limit to go to 25 thats not fair, and saying that all darwen is scum is a bit harsh. i know that town has its idiots who cant handle beer but that doesnt mean none of us can. As for walking through town during the day and there is 'chavscum' everywhere thats also a bit harsh. i agree there are lots of lazy people who cant be bothered to work knocking about but thats just England lately, this country is going to pot not just Darwen! I have worked and studied hard since i left school and was recently on maternity leave from work and the looks i used to get when i walked through town pushing my pram were prob from the likes of 'Scum breeds scum' there are plenty of good people in Darwen but also idiots but thats everywhere these days not just Darwen. I sincerley hope that the injured man is ok and my thoughts are with him and his family but lets not let these idiots doing these things give us all a bad name.
A good point well made. I have lived in Darwen all my life, but I travel to lots of other towns all over the North West, and what I see in Darwen is mirrored in all those towns. This doesn't however, make it acceptable and I agree with other posters on here that the only way to stop it is to have an increased police presence and meaningful sentences passed down by the Courts.

Ian the Beancounter, Darwen says...
1:50pm Mon 25 Feb 08

im 22 by the way so you can call me chav scum too if u like altho i earn 30grand a year. n yes i know all the young people in darwen and iv never seen any of them purposely looking for trouble iv never had a fight neither


Hope you're not an English teacher, then!! :-))

Jenna, lower darwen says...
2:09pm Mon 25 Feb 08

Ian the Beancounter wrote:
im 22 by the way so you can call me chav scum too if u like altho i earn 30grand a year. n yes i know all the young people in darwen and iv never seen any of them purposely looking for trouble iv never had a fight neither
Hope you\'re not an English teacher, then!! :-))
no i sell phones hence the text spellin ha

darwen, darwen says...
2:16pm Mon 25 Feb 08

im a young lad from darwen and no about the things which go on in the town on a night out. i also know that their are many people in town that do just go out for a fight. however, many people my age (18) and older do actually go out for a good time and do not take drugs. i think it is unfair to generalise all people 18-25 and call them "chavs" and what-not. i think that most lads in darwen of that age are decent people, and even the less decent of them would not condone kicking a man while he is down.

jules, says...
2:41pm Mon 25 Feb 08

******** wrote:
I have been round Darwen once. and i would never come again. I was stared at like i was an outsider even though a friend i was with lived in Darwen, I alsoo work here,on the night out the first pub i went in my coat was stolen whilst i was in the toilet! the place is a dive full of druggies and loseres. but to be fair it aint just darwen most towns round here are the exact same, i wont even go round my local town anymore casue of the chavs and fighting and drugs!!
Good for you, do us all a favour and stay in then. Got stared at!!?? Whatever

Mr Horse, In my stable says...
6:28pm Mon 25 Feb 08

Just out of curiosity, how is a fight of such scale able to happen in the busiest town centre pub @ midnight?
It would seem obvious to have police stationed outside the pub at such a time.
Instead they hide round corners, sat in a van eatin takeaways. Brilliant.

jules, says...
7:44pm Mon 25 Feb 08

Mr Horse wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how is a fight of such scale able to happen in the busiest town centre pub @ midnight?
It would seem obvious to have police stationed outside the pub at such a time.
Instead they hide round corners, sat in a van eatin takeaways. Brilliant.
Mr Horse, are you crazy?? Do you think we should have a policeman outside every pub in Darwen?? Try being realistic!!How insulting to the policeman who goes to work every night. To say that they all sit in their vans eating takeaways.

jules, says...
7:45pm Mon 25 Feb 08

Mr Horse wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how is a fight of such scale able to happen in the busiest town centre pub @ midnight?
It would seem obvious to have police stationed outside the pub at such a time.
Instead they hide round corners, sat in a van eatin takeaways. Brilliant.
Mr Horse, are you crazy?? Do you think we should have a policeman outside every pub in Darwen?? Try being realistic!!How insulting to the policeman who goes to work every night. To say that they all sit in their vans eating takeaways.

D, Darwen says...
11:01pm Mon 25 Feb 08

I think most of you need to start typing properly, bloody 'txt' speak. Seriously how hard is it just to type a few extra characters and make it 100% more readable

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