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6:10pm Friday 5th June 2009
LABOUR lost 25 seats on Lancashire County Council - and overall control to the Tories.
Conservative leader David Cameron flew into Preston after hearing the results, which saw the Tories swept to power for the first time for 28 years after gaining 51 seats to Labour's 16.
Among the casualties were Labour's leader Hazel Harding and deputy leader Doreen Pollitt.
The Liberal Democrats increased their seats but also lost their leader, David Whipp.
The BNP has won its first county council seat in Lancashire in Padiham and Burnley West.
In the first Darwen Town Council elections, the For Darwen Party took 7 of the 13 seats to take control.
All results for Lancashire County Council, Darwen Town Council and the Burnley Borough Council by-election will be added to our elections module - click here.
15.55 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: ""That's all, folks", shouts Tory MP Nigel Evans as they win their 43rd seat. Returning officer Ged Fitzgerald confirms what everybody has known for most of the afternoon: 'I can formally declare that that the Conservative Party has gained 43 seats, and has overall control of Lancashire County Council.' Tory leader Geoff Driver addresses the crowd to loud cheers and applause: 'The Conservatives are back in Lancashire after 28 years of Labour. Labour is in dissarray.'"
15.45 Comment from reader Mick Wells: "How about a slightly more positive Labour story on the blog? i.e. Ciaran Wells, a 23-year-old standing in his first county election winning Great Harwood with over 200 majority. I know I'm biased but it would be nice!"
15.45 Confirmed - The Conservatives have won overall control from Labour of Lancashire County Council.
15.35 For Darwen secure a clean sweep in the Marsh House ward on the new Town Council which gives them control of the 13-seat council. The final tally: For Darwen 7; Liberal Democrats 4; Labour 1; Conservative 1. See the full results in the election module.
15.15 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Tory Ribble Valley MP Nigel Evans says a Conservative county council will be 'a breath of fresh air. It sends a very clear message that people want to see a change in local and central government. This is a complete meltdown for the Labour Party.'”
15.10 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "The Conservatives have got this sewn up – they’ve just made three massive gains from Labour including council chairman Alan Whittaker in Chorley Rural West and cabinet member for sustainable development Matthew Tomlinson in Leyland Central.”
15.05 Results for four of the five wards on the new Darwen Town Council have been announced. Liberal Democrat Paul Browne leads the way in Sudell, while Labour's David Smith tops the poll in Sunnyhurst. See the full results in the election module.
14.55 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Currently looking at a swing from Labour to the Tories of around eight per cent. Ribble Valley Conservative MP Nigel Evans has arrived as his party closes in on overall control."
14.50 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Former Conservative group leader Michael Welsh arrives in Preston in confident mood. 'We are going to take control, there’s no doubt. We are winning seats in Labour heartland. Labour have been wiped out. We are now doing to them what they did to us in 1981.' Current Tory leader Geoff Driver has also arrived having retained his Preston North seat.."
14.45 The big-name casualties keep on coming. Labour's deputy leader, Doreen Pollitt, has lost her Accrington West seat by just 22 votes from a total of 4194 cast. Meanwhile cabinet member Anne Brown, adult and community services chief, loses out to the Tories in Leyland South West. See the full results in the election module.
14.25 The first two results are in for the new Darwen Town Council. The Liberal Democrats take both Whitehall seats, while For Darwen do the same in Earcroft. See the full results in the election module.
14.25 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Finally a councillor has arrived at County Hall – although he won’t be one for long as he’s chosen to stand down after 28 years. Long-serving Chorley East Labour member Don Yates says it has been a “disastrous” day for his party: 'We’re losing some very good people who have some great things. It’s also being lost in the mayhem of London, Gordon Brown and expenses.' Hazel Harding is no longer expected to turn up at County Hall following her defeat. The Tories are two off the 12 gains they need."
14.05 Council leader Hazel Harding on her defeat: "I am very disappointed in the result. I do not think it reflects the efforts we have made as Labour politicians but it is down to what has been happening nationally. I think we should be scared for public services now that the Tories have the county council seat."
14.05 Tony Winder comments after ousting council leader Hazel Harding: "Each of us who has been elected will have to prove we are worthy of the votes we have received. The expenses scandal has knocked everyone's confidence in the democratic system. I'm not claiming to be a saint but I do promise to do my absolute best to serve the public."
14.00 Another three high-profile Labour casualties. Jean Battle loses Accrington North to independent Malcolm Pritchard; Dorothy Westell loses Oswaldtwistle to Tory Peter Britcliffe (who is leader of Hyndburn Borough Council); and over in Preston North West, cabinet member Tom Burns has been ousted by Mark Jewell of Liberal Democrats. See the full results in the election module.
13.45 With all the excitement in the Lancashire County Council elections, I forgot to say that the Liberal Democrats held their seat in the Burnley Borough Council by-election. That means it's as you were. See the full results in the election module.
13.35 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Returning officer Ged Fitzgerald, the council's chief executive, has just formally announced the first set of results - confirming Labour's wipeout from Burnley. The Conservatives are already half way to the magic 12 gains they need to take control."
13.35 Alex Willmott at Bacup Leisure Centre: "Confirmed - Conservative Tony Winder takes Labour leader's Hazel Harding seat. Also gone in Rossendale is Labour's Bob Wilkinson, who is also chair of the fire authority. It looks like the Tories are going to win every seat in Rossendale."
13.25 A morsel of good news for Labour - gain in Nelson South and Brierfield & Nelson North. See the full results in the election module.
13.15 Here's a surprise. Liberal Democrat leader David Whipp has lost his West Craven seat to the Conservatives. See the full results in the election module.
13.10 Labour have lost all their Burnley seats now - two more councillors fall to the Liberal Democrats. See the full results in the election module.
13.05 Labour are being wiped out of Burnley. They've lost Burnley Rural (where they finished last) and Burnley South West (where they finished third) to the Liberal Democrats now. Full results for these two wards on the election module.
12.45 The first results are in. The Liberal Democrats have won two Burnley seats (mentioned below by Pete Magill) from Labour. And the BNP's Sharon Wilkinson has ousted Labour cabinet member Marcus Johnstone in Padiham and Burnley West. She becomes the first BNP councillor on Lancashire County Council. Full results for these three wards on the election module.
12.35 Pete Magill at Turf Moor, Burnley: "Looks like two gains for Liberal Democrats from Labour in Burnley. Cabinet member Tony Martin appears to have lost his seat in Burnley Central West to borough councillor Charlie Briggs. Peter McCann appears to have seized Burnley North East for the Lib Dems from Terry Burns."
12.30 Alex Willmott at Bacup Leisure Centre: "Hazel Harding is back in the room but is still expected to make her way to Preston as the results are officially declared. It looks like the end of her time on the council after a quarter of a century."
12.30 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Shelagh Derwent (Conservative) has retained Pendle West with an increased majority."
12.25 Alex Willmott at Bacup Leisure Centre: "They're having a third recount for Whitworth - it must be tight. Labour looking nervous, Tories wearing smiles. I'm eating a chicken sandwich."
12.15 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Still no results, but Burnley is expected in the next half an hour. Camera crews are getting installed in the grand settings of the council chamber, with oil paintings of previous council chairmen lining the walls. The BNP are also believed to have polled well in Pendle. Conservative leader Geoff Driver’s mobile phone is switched off, but he will head for County Hall from his count, which is also in Preston if he wins.
12.10 Alex Willmott at Bacup Leisure Centre: "Labour leader Hazel Harding has walked out of the count. I presume she is on her way to County Hall. It looks like the Tories are the main beneficiaries of Labour's expected collapse."
12.10 Catherine Pye at King George's Hall, Blackburn: "They're adding the postal votes in with the other ballot papers now. People are beginning to moan about how long it is taking and saying Town Council and European papers should have been in separate boxes."
11.55 Catherine Pye at King George's Hall, Blackburn: "Just starting the count for the Whitehall ward in Darwen. Extra counters have been brought in to speed things up."
11.55 Catherine Pye at King George's Hall, Blackburn: "Just starting the count for the Whitehall ward in Darwen. Extra counters have been brought in to speed things up."
11.40 Alex Willmott at Bacup Leisure Centre: "Big news looming. Labour leader - and leader of Lancashire County Council - Hazel Harding is expected to lose her seat. In fact the party is facing losing all three of its Rossendale seats. Turnout for Rossendale area is 36.8%"
11.35 Catherine Pye at King George's Hall, Blackburn, sent this photo from the Darwen Town Council count:
11.25 Catherine Pye at King George's Hall, Blackburn: "Tories and Liberal Democrats not confident in the Darwen elections. A Labour candidate thinks For Darwen will have a landslide."
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11.15 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "Still waiting for the first results, but here are some turnout figures: South Ribble 38 per cent; Preston 35 per cent; Ribble Valley 35 per cent; Pendle 46 per cent. This is less than 2005, which was around 60 per cent, but that fell on the same day as a general election, which always increases the turnout."
11.05 Early indications suggest turn-out for the Lancashire County Council elections is roughly 40% - higher than expected.
11.05 Catherine Pye at King George's Hall, Blackburn: "The Darwen announcement is delayed by one hour because it is taking longer than expected to bundle up the European ballot papers because of a higher than expected turnout."
10.55 Pete Magill at Turf Moor, Burnley: "Labour insiders not hopeful and fear the BNP may have won two county council seats in Burnley."
10.55 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "The first count is expected to be in Pendle in the next 30 minutes with the final picture set to emerge in the early afternoon. Chief executive and returning officer Ged Fitzgerald will declare the results before the council leader - almost certainly either Labour's Hazel Harding or Tory Geoff Driver - will address the press."
10.55 The Lancashire Telegraph understands the BNP has won a seat on Lancashire County Council in the Burnley area and has polled well across East Lancashire.
10.45 Catherine Pye at King George's Hall, Blackburn: "Mood is pensive at the Darwen Town Council count but with some friendly banter between the parties. No one in particular is confident because it's a new council so no one knows what to expect. At the moment. everyone is stood around waiting while the European ballot papers are bundled up. We're expecting results from 11am onwards."
10.35 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "No count results are in yet, so no councillors have arrived at Preston - but I've just received a text from a senior Labour county councillor from East Lancashire, saying: "It's not looking right good, to be honest."
10.35 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "No count results are in yet, so no councillors have arrived at Preston - but I've just received a text from a senior Labour county councillor from East Lancashire, saying: "It's not looking right good, to be honest."
10.30 Pete Magill at Turf Moor, Burnley: "Political big hitters are out in force - Kitty Ussher, Gordon Birtwistle, the town's ex MP Peter Pike are here with the candidates."
10.00 Tom Moseley at County Hall, Preston: "It's the calm before the storm at County Hall, as what could be one of the most momentous election counts in the Lancashire's political history gets underway. The results will be coming in on a district-by-district basis, and displayed on big screens in front of the national media who are gathered at Lancashire County Council headquarters."
09.50 Just a reminder Euro election results will not be known until Sunday night at the earliest as counting does not begin until Sunday.
09.30 Election counts are due to begin now! Our reporters Pete Magill, Tom Moseley, Alex Willmott and Catherine Pye are at counts across the area and will be bringing news and results as they happen.
09.00 Last night problems were reported at the Bangor Street polling station in Blackburn after it ran out of voting cards. In the 40 minutes until replacements arrived around 40 people had to be turned away from the station. Councillors said it was the first time they had ever seen a polling station run out of ballot papers.
WHAT WERE WE VOTING FOR?
All the seats on the European Parliament, Lancashire County Council and the new Darwen Town Council up for grabs.
Eight MEPs will be elected to represent the North West; all 84 county councillors are up for re-election; and Darweners will elect their first 13 councillors to their new town council.
Additionally, there is a crucial Burnley Borough Council by-election which could change the make-up of the council.
Political Watch, Darwen says...
9:24pm Thu 4 Jun 09
CapitaBackHander, Darren says...
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upandunder, Perth says...
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upandunder, Perth says...
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Ted Maul, Blackburn says...
11:07am Fri 5 Jun 09
upandunder wrote:Is this the BNP getting their excuses in early?
Couple with the fact that the polling stations are manned by employees of Blackburn with Darwen Council who chances are, are members of Unison who ran a campaign against one particular party, this should spark a red alert with people at the electral fraud commision
upandunder, Perth says...
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Linde41, Blackburn says...
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Saima, lancashire says...
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timeforcommonsense, Clayton_le_moors says...
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Saima, lancashire says...
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akon, padiham says...
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akon, padiham says...
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The Red Mage, says...
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brian jones, Leyland says...
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Linde41, Blackburn says...
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lancastrian lass, Padiham says...
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upandunder, Perth says...
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upandunder, Perth says...
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upandunder, Perth says...
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willybob, padiham says...
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pull some strings, ROSSENDALE says...
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Saima Z, Blackburn says...
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willybob, padiham says...
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DavidBurnley, Burnley says...
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Mike Costa, Blackburn says...
2:59pm Fri 5 Jun 09
upandunder wrote:Mike Costa says:
oh , sorry my mistake, didnt see the labour party candidate, whose party dictates that the British public can not have a referendum on europe!!
andy1, burnley says...
3:09pm Fri 5 Jun 09
willybob wrote:You must be really pleased now that you have a member of a Facist Party looking after you. Shes done nothing on Burnley Council same has she will do naff all on the County Council. Hers hoping Holocaust Denier Griffin dont get elected.
well done sharon wilkinson, you had my vote too
Truth will out, Burnley says...
3:14pm Fri 5 Jun 09
upandunder, Perth says...
3:15pm Fri 5 Jun 09
Mike Costa wrote:for a start it was promised as part of a labour election campaign, as you say it will satisfy a few xenophobes and little englanders, if it will satisfy so few, why not hold it and have it done with, so what are the labour party scared of? Britain is being ruled by Brussels at the moment via the backdoor thats why the UK is such a fantastic place to live and Europes dumping ground for pathetic regulations that countries like Spain adopt but dont enforce..
upandunder wrote:Mike Costa says:
oh , sorry my mistake, didnt see the labour party candidate, whose party dictates that the British public can not have a referendum on europe!!
Why should we have another referendum? Is it to satisfy a few xenophobes and small minded little Englanders?
Being ruled by Brussels seems to be a hell of a sight better than having idiots such as yourself, the BNP or any other extremist party being in charge
ganja man, nelson says...
3:17pm Fri 5 Jun 09
Ted Maul, Blackburn says...
3:18pm Fri 5 Jun 09
akon wrote:Ooh 'Ted Smaul' - I see what you've done there...aren't you the witty little prankster!
Pardon Ted Smaul ,did you utter something earlier? Excuses ?
andy1, burnley says...
3:19pm Fri 5 Jun 09
akon wrote:No doubt you celebrated it with a chapter from Meim Kampth you Facist. I know you are and you know like wise moron. Next time I see you Im telling you to your smug face we will see what you attempt to do about it. Not a lot as usual
Congratulations SHARON WILKINSON
UP THE BNP !!!!!!
willybob, padiham says...
3:25pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1 wrote:oh yeah, cos labour have done wonders for padiham havent they. we get our thriving settled schools ripped away from us cos the are too white and need to be multi-cultural,and what happens, we are now all in special measures.nobody wants there kida at these schools and are actually moving out of town so they dont have to go there.
willybob wrote: well done sharon wilkinson, you had my vote tooYou must be really pleased now that you have a member of a Facist Party looking after you. Shes done nothing on Burnley Council same has she will do naff all on the County Council. Hers hoping Holocaust Denier Griffin dont get elected.
Ian the Beancounter, Darwen says...
3:29pm Fri 5 Jun 09
Saima Z, Blackburn says...
3:32pm Fri 5 Jun 09
DavidBurnley wrote:No David, the grammar is fine I think you will find upon actually reading between the lines. The truth just bit you on the rear, that's all! Ha!
Saima - for a barrister, your English grammar is terrible - no wonder normal people don't understand a word said by the 'legal types'.
DavidBurnley, Burnley says...
3:35pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1, burnley says...
3:36pm Fri 5 Jun 09
lancastrian lass wrote:Got to agree on every thing youve said. Akon is know to those who take on the BNP hes a thug. We was once up canvasing his way with the truth about the BNP and the freaks that are in it he came out starting insults and threats of what he was going to do to certain people. He tried it with me but realised it would not of been a wise move on his behalf. Thankfully the majority of ex service people are Facists like him. Most of us who have served are disgusted at the likes of training these people and support their kicking out when found out what they are. There are many a fine Immigrant Service personnel serving our armed forces in their duties. In regards to Sharron Wilkinson all shes done since serving on Burnley Council like the rest of her dummies is sit there. These are not Politicians they are just a bunch of loonies with a huge chip on their shoulder. Ive said it before will say it again the world can not for one minute let its guard down for one minute against these crettins.
Ooh...the fascists are out in force in burnley as is Akon...labour took a pounding cos people are sick to death of their **** ups but us fools have voted the BNP and we are yet to see what their true colours are...we had a glimpse of this when they rolled into Pendle Vale School in Nelson with a camera crew and a large BNP truck...trying to stir up trouble in a multiracial school...even getting kids involved - how low...
Hope the people of burnley get what they deserve by having voted for the parties they have, the saying "you reap what you sow" springs to mind...these guys don't have the foresight or vision to attract any serious levels of investment for the area..anyone who thinks otherwise is quite frankly fooling themselves.
DavidBurnley, Burnley says...
3:43pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1, burnley says...
3:43pm Fri 5 Jun 09
willybob wrote:Dont use pathetic answers or excuses for supporting members of a Fascist Organisation. To think we allow idiots like you to vote is scary. Find out for sure what the words Fcism means it may educate you.
andy1 wrote:oh yeah, cos labour have done wonders for padiham havent they. we get our thriving settled schools ripped away from us cos the are too white and need to be multi-cultural,and what happens, we are now all in special measures.nobody wants there kida at these schools and are actually moving out of town so they dont have to go there.
willybob wrote: well done sharon wilkinson, you had my vote tooYou must be really pleased now that you have a member of a Facist Party looking after you. Shes done nothing on Burnley Council same has she will do naff all on the County Council. Hers hoping Holocaust Denier Griffin dont get elected.
Linde41, Blackburn says...
3:44pm Fri 5 Jun 09
DavidBurnley, Burnley says...
3:46pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1, burnley says...
3:50pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1 wrote:I appologise my message was meant to say most ex service personell are Not Facists like Akon. Akon is still a liitle peeved over the leaking of the BNP membership which was put on line. Does he still have his silly little flag outside his house that makes him think that hes a true Brit? You know the cross of St George who wasnt evennearly any thing English but from the Middle East. It goes to show what idiots are in the BNP.
lancastrian lass wrote:Got to agree on every thing youve said. Akon is know to those who take on the BNP hes a thug. We was once up canvasing his way with the truth about the BNP and the freaks that are in it he came out starting insults and threats of what he was going to do to certain people. He tried it with me but realised it would not of been a wise move on his behalf. Thankfully the majority of ex service people are Facists like him. Most of us who have served are disgusted at the likes of training these people and support their kicking out when found out what they are. There are many a fine Immigrant Service personnel serving our armed forces in their duties. In regards to Sharron Wilkinson all shes done since serving on Burnley Council like the rest of her dummies is sit there. These are not Politicians they are just a bunch of loonies with a huge chip on their shoulder. Ive said it before will say it again the world can not for one minute let its guard down for one minute against these crettins.
Ooh...the fascists are out in force in burnley as is Akon...labour took a pounding cos people are sick to death of their **** ups but us fools have voted the BNP and we are yet to see what their true colours are...we had a glimpse of this when they rolled into Pendle Vale School in Nelson with a camera crew and a large BNP truck...trying to stir up trouble in a multiracial school...even getting kids involved - how low...
Hope the people of burnley get what they deserve by having voted for the parties they have, the saying "you reap what you sow" springs to mind...these guys don't have the foresight or vision to attract any serious levels of investment for the area..anyone who thinks otherwise is quite frankly fooling themselves.
Saima, lancashire says...
3:50pm Fri 5 Jun 09
CapitaBackHander, Darren says...
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The Red Mage, says...
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ganja man, nelson says...
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DavidBurnley, Burnley says...
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Linde41, Blackburn says...
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Ian the Beancounter, Darwen says...
4:08pm Fri 5 Jun 09
The Red Mage wrote:Spot on! They've done nothing but spout empty promises and yet the people of Darwen have fallen for them! It's a black day for Darwen now that this sorry bunch are in control.
Disappointed with the number of votes For Melia managed to gain for Darwen Town Council. I'm still waiting for the stadium, Starbucks and Zen Garden they promised.
CapitaBackHander, Darren says...
4:09pm Fri 5 Jun 09
matthew987, blackburn says...
4:11pm Fri 5 Jun 09
Linde41 wrote:this is so true get them out i need work and asians own everything and they dont employ white british and yes the majority of this town are asians and pakistanis and they wont vote bnp but i and my freinds and familly will do
I can tell any1 now that Labour will once ag win B'Burn votes.They have an open door policy for immigrations & B'Burn has a dense population of immigrants who all vote for Labour.And no, I am NOT racists, just telling the facts how they are.
ganja man, nelson says...
4:16pm Fri 5 Jun 09
upandunder, Perth says...
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CapitaBackHander, Darren says...
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CapitaBackHander, Darren says...
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upandunder, Perth says...
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RK, Blackburn says...
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willybob, padiham says...
4:26pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1 wrote:well then you better be scared andy, cos there are a lot more "idiots" like me who will vote the BNP. by the way,my answers arnt pathetic nor excuses , now go calm yourself down dear
willybob wrote:Dont use pathetic answers or excuses for supporting members of a Fascist Organisation. To think we allow idiots like you to vote is scary. Find out for sure what the words Fcism means it may educate you.andy1 wrote:oh yeah, cos labour have done wonders for padiham havent they. we get our thriving settled schools ripped away from us cos the are too white and need to be multi-cultural,and what happens, we are now all in special measures.nobody wants there kida at these schools and are actually moving out of town so they dont have to go there.willybob wrote: well done sharon wilkinson, you had my vote tooYou must be really pleased now that you have a member of a Facist Party looking after you. Shes done nothing on Burnley Council same has she will do naff all on the County Council. Hers hoping Holocaust Denier Griffin dont get elected.
Excluded, Darwen says...
4:34pm Fri 5 Jun 09
artois, darwen says...
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Mark66, says...
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Ian the Beancounter, Darwen says...
4:48pm Fri 5 Jun 09
CapitaBackHander wrote:CapitaBackHander - you intrigue me with this! Join the forum and send me a Parsonal Message. I'd love to learn more.
I really can't understand why people vote for The For Darwen party. What have they delivered regarding their promises? What was the stand re the bus lane? How did they then vote re the Bus Lane? What is the REAL story behind Darwen Timber Site and Tony Melia aquiring the business? It was clear to see this business was going bust and I am sure something dodgy has gone on!
Old Timer, Burnley says...
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grumpyoldlady, blackburn says...
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mickyfin, burnley says...
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Burnley student, Burnley says...
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amazed, Darwen says...
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Tommy35, Burnley says...
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hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
5:15pm Fri 5 Jun 09
DavidBurnley wrote:You could use paragraph breaks too.
Saima, I'm not making a comment on the content of what you said - I don't have an opinion on it either way and I don't live in Blackburn. I was just pointing out that your grammar is actually very bad. For example - your use of the comma is out of context and most are in the wrong place. Commas are missing from places they should be and your use of 'whom', which is a genetive case pronoun, has been used in an accusative subclause - totally grammatically incorrect I'm afraid. That, and the fact that some of your sentances don't contain all the required elements to make them complete clauses in their own right, is why I point out that your grammar leaves a lot to be desired. However, should you prefer to think I am commenting about the content of your post then that's up to you - but it doesn't take away from the fact that someone in your profession should really have a better grasp of the basic grammar of the language. I would have thought that was an essential attribute?!
Inter-Rossiter, East Lancs says...
5:21pm Fri 5 Jun 09
hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
5:31pm Fri 5 Jun 09
grumpyoldlady wrote:grumpyoldlady,
No Saima Z, David was correct in saying that your standard of grammar is poor, but then the standard of English teaching is poor compared to the quality of teaching in the 1950's. Then the difference between who and whom was taught and one would know that it is "with reference to oneself", not In reference. I do hope you have a literate secretary.
hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
5:36pm Fri 5 Jun 09
Excluded wrote:Excluded - you sound like one of Concillor Smith's mates.
Congratulations to former Councillor Dave Smith for topping the poll in Sunnyhurst Ward in Darwen. And becoming Cllr Smith again. As a Labour candidate he was hardly riding on the coat tails of a national swing! It just goes to show that people will vote for someone who works hard for their area, campaigns all year round and has a reputation for honesty and not feathering his own nest. There are quite a few who could learn from Cllr Smith.
andy1, burnley says...
5:37pm Fri 5 Jun 09
willybob wrote:Im not scared of you or any of your Nazi mates lets get message over to you clearly. I will continue to oppose you and your ideologies of Facism. The people will see in time for themselves what a waste of space they have voted in. No decentr Employer will want to move into National Socialist Padhiam. Your politics if you can call them that do still not wear with the vast ammount of people. Many of you are convicted thugs etc. The party of law and order haha yeah in the docks mainly. Tomorrow is the 65th Anniversary of the D Day landings. It makes one wonder why the hell my fellow country men vote for Facist Partys. Its a disgrace to the memory of those who gave their lives to free Europe from Facist regimes, The BNP claim no longer to be a Nazi Party if you beleive that you will believe that the world is flat. A Leopard dont change its spots neither does Griffin still the same old Nazi has he was in the 70s whilst a mamber of the National Front.
andy1 wrote:well then you better be scared andy, cos there are a lot more "idiots" like me who will vote the BNP. by the way,my answers arnt pathetic nor excuses , now go calm yourself down dear
willybob wrote:Dont use pathetic answers or excuses for supporting members of a Fascist Organisation. To think we allow idiots like you to vote is scary. Find out for sure what the words Fcism means it may educate you.andy1 wrote:oh yeah, cos labour have done wonders for padiham havent they. we get our thriving settled schools ripped away from us cos the are too white and need to be multi-cultural,and what happens, we are now all in special measures.nobody wants there kida at these schools and are actually moving out of town so they dont have to go there.willybob wrote: well done sharon wilkinson, you had my vote tooYou must be really pleased now that you have a member of a Facist Party looking after you. Shes done nothing on Burnley Council same has she will do naff all on the County Council. Hers hoping Holocaust Denier Griffin dont get elected.
Mark66, says...
5:52pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1 wrote:andy1, you do realise that many ex servicemen vote BNP as they don't like what's going on in this country. Wake up and start listening to people.
willybob wrote:Im not scared of you or any of your Nazi mates lets get message over to you clearly. I will continue to oppose you and your ideologies of Facism. The people will see in time for themselves what a waste of space they have voted in. No decentr Employer will want to move into National Socialist Padhiam. Your politics if you can call them that do still not wear with the vast ammount of people. Many of you are convicted thugs etc. The party of law and order haha yeah in the docks mainly. Tomorrow is the 65th Anniversary of the D Day landings. It makes one wonder why the hell my fellow country men vote for Facist Partys. Its a disgrace to the memory of those who gave their lives to free Europe from Facist regimes, The BNP claim no longer to be a Nazi Party if you beleive that you will believe that the world is flat. A Leopard dont change its spots neither does Griffin still the same old Nazi has he was in the 70s whilst a mamber of the National Front.andy1 wrote:well then you better be scared andy, cos there are a lot more "idiots" like me who will vote the BNP. by the way,my answers arnt pathetic nor excuses , now go calm yourself down dearwillybob wrote:Dont use pathetic answers or excuses for supporting members of a Fascist Organisation. To think we allow idiots like you to vote is scary. Find out for sure what the words Fcism means it may educate you.andy1 wrote:oh yeah, cos labour have done wonders for padiham havent they. we get our thriving settled schools ripped away from us cos the are too white and need to be multi-cultural,and what happens, we are now all in special measures.nobody wants there kida at these schools and are actually moving out of town so they dont have to go there.willybob wrote: well done sharon wilkinson, you had my vote tooYou must be really pleased now that you have a member of a Facist Party looking after you. Shes done nothing on Burnley Council same has she will do naff all on the County Council. Hers hoping Holocaust Denier Griffin dont get elected.
working chap, Burnley says...
6:04pm Fri 5 Jun 09
mickyfin, burnley says...
6:05pm Fri 5 Jun 09
MartonBlue, Darwen says...
6:23pm Fri 5 Jun 09
akon, padiham says...
6:34pm Fri 5 Jun 09
mickyfin, burnley says...
6:34pm Fri 5 Jun 09
akon, padiham says...
6:54pm Fri 5 Jun 09
andy1, burnley says...
8:27pm Fri 5 Jun 09
akon wrote:Oi Dummy lets get one thing clear who is a devil worshipper Paganism is and as never been involved with Devil Worshipping cause Pagans do not belive in the Devil thats reserved for Christians and Muslims. So again has usual you dont know the truth its all made up in that little brain of yours. No ones a lefty has you put it though they would be more better than a bunch of half wit Facists led by a an Holocaust denier called Griffin whos a convicted person. We will see how limp wristed I am ok? You soon backed down last time you thought you could get away with pushing some one around not this one though. You are a well known thug when theirs a few behind you. I served yes but dont thankfully hold the views you do neither do a lot of other ex servicemen. I wouldnt say having one Councillor if you can call her that shes done nothing in her time at Burnley you know it. Thought youd of put I set Fire Alams off John Rowe up for election. Labour deserved an hammering simple has that but please dont pretend the British Nazi Party represents the under privillaged. Maureen Stowe blew the Whistle on you lot when you conned her into thinking you was a nice party Maureen had to learn the hard way. I suppose you was one of them threatening her etc when she exposed your Party. Oh hows I used to beat my wife up Brian Turner these days?
mickeyfin,
Andy1 was a labour councillor,then he started sulking when no-one would listen to his pathetic views & went independent,then got blown out!
He is a giant of a man sat at his computer desk ,but in reality just another limpwristed,communis
t, lefty pagan devil worshipping wannabe.
Anything he disagrees with & you are labelled a Nazi .
That's the best argument he & his lefty traitors can come up with.
To think he once served in the Army ?
SAD really ?
Also his chums no longer have seats on LCC.
Losers the lot of them!
starlinguk, Lancaster says...
9:24pm Fri 5 Jun 09
burnley resident, Burnley says...
9:39pm Fri 5 Jun 09
Hellboy, Blackburn says...
10:24pm Fri 5 Jun 09
ganja man, nelson says...
10:42pm Fri 5 Jun 09
lancastrian lass, Padiham says...
10:46pm Fri 5 Jun 09
Nad, Rojales says...
12:57am Sat 6 Jun 09
DavidBurnley wrote:People in Glass houses Shouldn't throw stones. Your use of the hyphen instead of the comma is distracting and your spelling isn't up to much; check out your ''sentances'' and why the question and excamation notation at your last word? Doh!!
Saima, I'm not making a comment on the content of what you said - I don't have an opinion on it either way and I don't live in Blackburn. I was just pointing out that your grammar is actually very bad. For example - your use of the comma is out of context and most are in the wrong place. Commas are missing from places they should be and your use of 'whom', which is a genetive case pronoun, has been used in an accusative subclause - totally grammatically incorrect I'm afraid. That, and the fact that some of your sentances don't contain all the required elements to make them complete clauses in their own right, is why I point out that your grammar leaves a lot to be desired. However, should you prefer to think I am commenting about the content of your post then that's up to you - but it doesn't take away from the fact that someone in your profession should really have a better grasp of the basic grammar of the language. I would have thought that was an essential attribute?!
hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
1:15am Sat 6 Jun 09
Nad wrote:Agreed.
DavidBurnley wrote: Saima, I'm not making a comment on the content of what you said - I don't have an opinion on it either way and I don't live in Blackburn. I was just pointing out that your grammar is actually very bad. For example - your use of the comma is out of context and most are in the wrong place. Commas are missing from places they should be and your use of 'whom', which is a genetive case pronoun, has been used in an accusative subclause - totally grammatically incorrect I'm afraid. That, and the fact that some of your sentances don't contain all the required elements to make them complete clauses in their own right, is why I point out that your grammar leaves a lot to be desired. However, should you prefer to think I am commenting about the content of your post then that's up to you - but it doesn't take away from the fact that someone in your profession should really have a better grasp of the basic grammar of the language. I would have thought that was an essential attribute?!People in Glass houses Shouldn't throw stones. Your use of the hyphen instead of the comma is distracting and your spelling isn't up to much; check out your ''sentances'' and why the question and excamation notation at your last word? Doh!! If you want to blind (or try to bully)contributors to this thread with your lack of the English language, I suggest you learn it first.
upandunder, Perth says...
7:23am Sat 6 Jun 09
Back Room BEP, Burnley says...
8:00am Sat 6 Jun 09
Alixet, Accrington says...
8:45am Sat 6 Jun 09
Alixet, Accrington says...
8:51am Sat 6 Jun 09
hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
9:02am Sat 6 Jun 09
RAyzer, BURNLEY says...
9:24am Sat 6 Jun 09
RAyzer, BURNLEY says...
9:28am Sat 6 Jun 09
RAyzer, BURNLEY says...
9:31am Sat 6 Jun 09
milty, blyth says...
10:40am Sat 6 Jun 09
duke bar, burnley says...
10:54am Sat 6 Jun 09
Back Room BEP wrote:Spot on BEP.
We hear the BNP row over and over again, but when will one of the other parties realise that people are just not happy the way things are unfolding. I grew up in the Duke Bar area of Burnley and have fond memories of the place. I remember knowing the local shopkeepers by name, the local community which centred around the public houses and also the many factories which provided jobs. Before long the area became overrun with people from another continent who arrived here for no other reason than bettering themselves financially. As they were a sizable community in their own right, they felt no need to adjust to the ways of the people in Burnley. They just carried on as they did in Pakistan, building mosques, opening shops selling their local dress and butchers which would sell halal meat. When the white folk were not prepared to employ young Asian males, they turned to selling drugs or crime in order to achieve status. This is one of the contributing factors in Burnley’s decline. The saddest part about all this is that the politicians take the easy option and suit these ethnic communities before they look after their own type. As the south Asians stick together and form one voice, rather than the many differing voices of white Britain, their needs are easier to serve. There are also added ‘Brownie points’ helping these poor communities who have come here for a better life. Looking after the pensioners which have put their entire working lives and so often served in the armed forces just does not have the same ring to it. George Galloway is a pefect example of one of these carpet baggers. So what is my problem I hear you ask? It’s simple. My town has completely changed in the 29 years of my life, and might I add – for the worse. It has become overrun with drugs, crime, unemployment and people who I have nothing in common with and would prefer my daughter not to meet. It does not even have a hospital any more! A Premier League side it does have though. I’m not asking for Nazi death camps, I just want politicians to serve the majority first and encourage those who come here for their own benefit to become like the local people rather than proactively encouraging difference by funding mosques and changing signs so they can be read in 28 different languages. There are danger signs in this message too. If we carry on heading in this direction of enthusiastic multiculturalism, where no member of the state is encouraged to conform to a norm, we run the risk of setting the table for another Yugoslavia. We have seen it in Northern Ireland where it nearly developed into civil war between two sides sharing the same religion. Imaging how it would be between people two complete poles apart. It’s small wonder that so many young Muslims are falling into the hands of extremists. These groups offer them direction in life, where as good old Great Britain, or the United Kingdom as they like to refer to it today (the Great part might cast ideas of our former glory days, which just won’t do) offers little in the form of pride or goals. If any politicians are reading this, forget your super schools which are intended to enhance integration. What we need is to fly the Union flag, celebrate our own customs and national days and start informing our population that we are still are great nation which carries some clout in this world of ours. Do not be afraid of upsetting people on St George’s day – they came to join us remember not the other way around. Tell our kids what we achieved as far as the Industrial Revolution is concerned and how we fought tyranny on two large scales at a great loss to ourselves. Maybe then, our long term visitors might start thinking that we British folk are worth integrating with, rather than seeing us a limited shelf life non believers.
Back Room BEP, Burnley says...
11:35am Sat 6 Jun 09
hasslem hasslem wrote:Dear
Back Room - you are a racist prat. Asians didn't close the factories down. The world trading environment did Asians didn't shut your pubs down. You did by staying at home in front of the telly. Pub-owners did by charging exorbitant prices for a crap product. Should all incomers be forced to adopt the native culture's religeon, beliefs and more?....just like we did throughout India, the Far East and Africa. As for local shops - think you will find they still exist in your area. Maybe the original owners have sold up (their choice). Think you will also find that these shops do not now "close for lunch" or have half day closing. Equally, I am guessing they open earlier and close later, and offer a wider range of products. As far as Halal is concerned - its perfectly edible. If enough people had shopped in a "traditional" butchers, rather than a supermarket, then it need not have closed down. As far a dealers is concerned - my understanding is that the "race riots" of Burnley Wood were a territorial battle between rival drug gangs of both skin colours. BTW - flying the flag of St. George. There is some dispute about St. George's ethnicity - but you must be proud to salute a Libyan or Turk. I am sure that all the readers on this forum are pleased that you are not asking for Nazi death camps. At least you seem to acknowledge they existed, unlike some of your like minded extreme right-wing vermin pals.
hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
12:20pm Sat 6 Jun 09
hasslem hasslem, lower cumberworth says...
12:25pm Sat 6 Jun 09
andy1, burnley says...
12:43pm Sat 6 Jun 09
akon wrote:Akon what you throwing at people these days who dont agree with you Bricks or some thing. Like I said before **** Paganism as never been anything to do with Devile Worshipping we dont belive in the Devil. Thats called Satanism. We will see akon how tough you are. You tried it once you soon backed down little boy. In the old days when you was the National Front in the 70s your meetings where forciably closed down by direct action its time once again for that action.Lets see the bands like The Specials again who get back together this summer spreading the Anti-Nazi message out there. Yeah akon you soon cleared off when you thought you could bring your ideas of Racial Tensions etc to gigs like these. Your a tosser akon. You are one big joke akon. You show your true colours all the time akon. Ganjaman you know what its like you challenge akon he trys to twist it Im sure you will know him hes not hard to miss all mouth to. He refuses to answer questions over I beat my wife up Turner who at the time was an elected Councillor who refused to stand down and was supported bt the other enpty heads of the BNP including Sharron Wilkinson. He refuses to comment over Maureen Stowe like I put it to him was he one of them who threatened Maureen when she realised the truth over the BNP. Hes even refused to condemn his mate simpleton John I set Fire Alarms off Rowe. Like I said ganjaman akon is lowest of the low a complete thug if backed up soft as you know what by himself. Sharron Wilkinson in all the years as done nothing but sit on her arse since being elected. And looking at akons name Im wondering if he dropped the C and replaced it with K in his name cause hes certainly good at conning people if you get my drift.
Andy1
Lefty soft arse devil WORSHIPPER.
Stick to pickin on schoolboys,thts about all you can manage!
Hows short arms anyway?
akon, padiham says...
12:48pm Sat 6 Jun 09
akon, padiham says...
12:55pm Sat 6 Jun 09
Back Room BEP, Burnley says...
1:32pm Sat 6 Jun 09
hasslem hasslem wrote:Dear Hasslem Hasslem,
Back Room, you speak with fork tongue. If you don't think your comments are repugnant then you are a bigger idiot than i first believed. Why do you assume I am Asian? I am white born and brought up in Lancashire (and still live here, close to the area you describe) unlike your flighty self. Let me guess you left saying "this country is going to the dogs." Why is Burnley "awash" with immigrants. Good job it is too, as numpties like you have chosen to leave it and the town consequently lacks any inward investment. The Asians of Duke Bar have bought thier houses from white families, like yours that have sold out. Your point about pubs such as the Waggoners is total tosh. Are you saying that Muslims should have to go and drink booze in there, get plastered every night and go home and beat up thier wives. What is wrong with our Muslim cousins worshipping under thier own religeon. Do you propose to outlaw the Muslim faith. I assume you dont advocate all Jews becoming Christians as your wife's grandma rescued some in WW2. Dont give me the "i'm a pluralist" tosh cos you have been to a concentration camp. I too have visited Osweicim and seen what happens when your level of intolerance can be allowed to fester So you are married to a foreigner. What do you want a medal? Doesn't mean you dont qualify for the racist moniker. Seems to me the town is better off for not having the likes of you in it. The best City in the World in my view is London (I am well travelled, btw), because it is such a melting pot of cultures and people. Nowhere in the World comes close to London, not even New York, for its variety, pace and excitement.....you just potter off to your poolside and enjoy another cadbury's finger biscuit. You exposed yourself as a racist bigot, by immediately thinking i was Asian because of my writing name. Hasslem Hasslem refers to me shouting at my team's players when they are not closing down oppo attackers. So long, Bigot!
andy1, burnley says...
1:36pm Sat 6 Jun 09
akon wrote:Never answer straight questions to yourself akon why not? Youve been rumbled once again akon. Id love the good old days to come back when you Facists have your meetings and they got broke up by a selectoion of people like punks, proper skins who followed the ska scene to name a few. You Nazis used to run off like good little boys. akon how come youn didnt stand because to much is known about you thats why. You still crying over the leaked dossier of whos who in the British Nazi Party?
Andy1
BURNLEYS DEVIL WORSHIPPING TROTSKYITE.
Get yourself in a hostel away from the wife,the one who constantly beats you up.
TOSSER !!!!!
andy1, burnley says...
1:36pm Sat 6 Jun 09
akon wrote:Never answer straight questions to yourself akon why not? Youve been rumbled once again akon. Id love the good old days to come back when you Facists have your meetings and they got broke up by a selectoion of people like punks, proper skins who followed the ska scene to name a few. You Nazis used to run off like good little boys. akon how come youn didnt stand because to much is known about you thats why. You still crying over the leaked dossier of whos who in the British Nazi Party?
Andy1
BURNLEYS DEVIL WORSHIPPING TROTSKYITE.
Get yourself in a hostel away from the wife,the one who constantly beats you up.
TOSSER !!!!!
andy1, burnley says...
1:37pm Sat 6 Jun 09
akon wrote:Never answer straight questions to yourself akon why not? Youve been rumbled once again akon. Id love the good old days to come back when you Facists have your meetings and they got broke up by a selectoion of people like punks, proper skins who followed the ska scene to name a few. You Nazis used to run off like good little boys. akon how come youn didnt stand because to much is known about you thats why. You still crying over the leaked dossier of whos who in the British Nazi Party?
Andy1
BURNLEYS DEVIL WORSHIPPING TROTSKYITE.
Get yourself in a hostel away from the wife,the one who constantly beats you up.
TOSSER !!!!!
andy1, burnley says...
1:38pm Sat 6 Jun 09
akon wrote:Never answer straight questions to yourself akon why not? Youve been rumbled once again akon. Id love the good old days to come back when you Facists have your meetings and they got broke up by a selectoion of people like punks, proper skins who followed the ska scene to name a few. You Nazis used to run off like good little boys. akon how come youn didnt stand because to much is known about you thats why. You still crying over the leaked dossier of whos who in the British Nazi Party?
Andy1
BURNLEYS DEVIL WORSHIPPING TROTSKYITE.
Get yourself in a hostel away from the wife,the one who constantly beats you up.
TOSSER !!!!!
charlie, rossendale says...
1:40pm Sat 6 Jun 09
charlie, rossendale says...
1:42pm Sat 6 Jun 09
charlie, rossendale says...
1:43pm Sat 6 Jun 09
holsten pils, burnley says...
2:35pm Sat 6 Jun 09
willybob, padiham says...
3:02pm Sat 6 Jun 09
holsten pils wrote:well said. but you do relize that by objecting to this disgusting eyesore you will be called alsorts by the muppets on this forum who like to bury their heads in the sands. i stopped shopping at morrisons because i was sick to death of listening to the wailing ,and not feeling like i was in england, and i will prob stop shopping at asda for the same reasons.if that makes me a racist then i couldnt give a 2 figs. what labour should of relized is that THIS IS ENGLAND and us english want it to stay that way.
Union members of unison , unite , NUT etc should be asking themselves do they really want their membership fees to go towards a party that have been defrauding the taxpayers and that put ethnic minorities and moslems ablove our own people , history , culture ? as i am sure there are a good few members that actually voted BNP especially in Burnley. I for one wish the BNP had got more votes in Burnley as then the absolute eyesore of a mosque that is being built near asda and just 500 yrds from the new college would have been stopped , there is not one person that has not commented on the monsterous dome and how ugly it is , but once again a labour council has allowed yet another indication that we are becoming islamified to occur and this new mosque just quarter of a mile from a newly built one at Daneshouse , just how many mosques do the moslems need in Burnley ? Enough to show they are taking over our country maybe !!!
Peragrine, Brierfield says...
3:05pm Sat 6 Jun 09
RAyzer, BURNLEY says...
3:31pm Sat 6 Jun 09
Back Room BEP, Burnley says...
3:44pm Sat 6 Jun 09
duke bar, burnley says...
4:13pm Sat 6 Jun 09
andy1 wrote:Sounds like ANDY HAS A STUTTER .With all the times he has repeated this post.Nervous Andrew sounds like the BNP have got you shaking in your boots.You never told us you used to be a councilor as well Andy.EX councilor ANDY.I have asked this question over 20 times on this forum over the years.WHY DID NO ASIANS EVER GET TAKEN BEFOR THE COURTS FOR SETTING DUKE BAR ON FIRE .Burning the Duke of York PUB and shops and cars.WHEN 100S OF THEM RIOTED UP DUKE BAR.No one has ever answered this question...
akon wrote: Andy1 BURNLEYS DEVIL WORSHIPPING TROTSKYITE. Get yourself in a hostel away from the wife,the one who constantly beats you up. TOSSER !!!!!Never answer straight questions to yourself akon why not? Youve been rumbled once again akon. Id love the good old days to come back when you Facists have your meetings and they got broke up by a selectoion of people like punks, proper skins who followed the ska scene to name a few. You Nazis used to run off like good little boys. akon how come youn didnt stand because to much is known about you thats why. You still crying over the leaked dossier of whos who in the British Nazi Party?
willybob, padiham says...
4:51pm Sat 6 Jun 09
duke bar wrote:its no good saying all this to andy, he will only say you are making up pathetic excuses for voting the BNP ,and that you are an idiot,just like he said to me yesterday .
andy1 wrote:Sounds like ANDY HAS A STUTTER .With all the times he has repeated this post.Nervous Andrew sounds like the BNP have got you shaking in your boots.You never told us you used to be a councilor as well Andy.EX councilor ANDY.I have asked this question over 20 times on this forum over the years.WHY DID NO ASIANS EVER GET TAKEN BEFOR THE COURTS FOR SETTING DUKE BAR ON FIRE .Burning the Duke of York PUB and shops and cars.WHEN 100S OF THEM RIOTED UP DUKE BAR.No one has ever answered this question... The MP,S ,THE POLICE OR THE COUNCILORS.It was only whites that got charged and sent to jail. The Police sat watching the Asians doing what they wanted.THEN SHOCK HORROR ANDY ....BURNLEY VOTES FOR THE BNP .WHAT THE FECK DID YOU EXPECT. Andy sounds like you should book into a clinc as this election result is doing you no good.Glad to see we have democracy alive and well in BURNLEY.Had the asian culprits of the duke bar riots been charged and jailed and justice had been done .NO ONE IN BURNLEY WOULD HAVE BOTHERED TO VOTE FOR THE BNP .THESE ARE THE FACTS............Loo k forward to hearing your reply Andy as for years you have ignored this question....akon wrote: Andy1 BURNLEYS DEVIL WORSHIPPING TROTSKYITE. Get yourself in a hostel away from the wife,the one who constantly beats you up. TOSSER !!!!!Never answer straight questions to yourself akon why not? Youve been rumbled once again akon. Id love the good old days to come back when you Facists have your meetings and they got broke up by a selectoion of people like punks, proper skins who followed the ska scene to name a few. You Nazis used to run off like good little boys. akon how come youn didnt stand because to much is known about you thats why. You still crying over the leaked dossier of whos who in the British Nazi Party?
Back Room BEP, Burnley says...
5:44pm Sat 6 Jun 09
Back Room BEP wrote:Is there nobody out there willing to defend the ruling party?
Moving on with the debate. Did anyone out there actually vote for Labour? If anyone is brave enough to admit so, could they try and convince the readers of this page why they did so. Did they not feel that a walk around the block would have been a better way of wasting away some time? Note, in the reply can we only stick to reasons in which Labour bettered the good of the whole rather than the good of the individual/minority group.
theavenger2008, darwen says...
6:01pm Sat 6 Jun 09
upandunder wrote:All politicians are corrupt. Unison is the most corrupt organisation of all. They will use whatever it takes to get guilty people off and back into work. I do not vote as they are all liars and I have yet to see any party do anything they said they would do.
Couple with the fact that the polling stations are manned by employees of Blackburn with Darwen Council who chances are, are members of Unison who ran a campaign against one particular party, this should spark a red alert with people at the electral fraud commision
duke bar, burnley says...
6:58pm Sat 6 Jun 09
debbie_cragg, nelson says...
7:53pm Sat 6 Jun 09
Back Room BEP, Burnley says...
9:17pm Sat 6 Jun 09
disgusted tunbridge wells, rossendale says...
10:38pm Sat 6 Jun 09
ganja man, nelson says...
10:55pm Sat 6 Jun 09
Lifeinthemix, Accrington says...
1:05am Sun 7 Jun 09
Izanears, Nelson says...
9:33am Sun 7 Jun 09
willybob, padiham says...
10:28am Sun 7 Jun 09
akon, padiham says...
1:51pm Sun 7 Jun 09
duke bar, burnley says...
4:56pm Sun 7 Jun 09
Back Room BEP wrote:Burnley folk voted for the BNP after the riots because they felt betrayed.
Are you all so out of touch with the town's people? Can it not be seen that people are voting BNP because they don't feel represented by the main stream parties. They feel ignored and many believe that they have become second class citizens due to positive discrimination. The fact that none of the Asians were jailed for their part in the race riots proves this. One of those caught up in the troubles even went on to become Justice Minister (Labour MP Shahid Malik), who might I add, very recentely stood down from this position before the investigation into expenses claims had time to find anything – any guesses why? The very fact that the report into the riots was fabricated also causes further isolation of the indigenous population of Burnley. To suggest it was caused by rival drug gangs was incredulous. How better to fuel the flames. People turning to the extreme right is due to the white inhabitants of Burnley seeing their very way of life being swept away from them. One less pub, one more mosque. You can’t brand people racist for this. They see the pendulum as swinging too far in one direction. No one wants to cause unnecessary suffering or evils, but they also don’t want to imagine their generations to come grow up somewhere that does not depict the same town that they had grown up in. The town itself is one of much natural beauty, set in the Pennine Valley, complemented by the Victorian architecture, with a strong sense of pride for the local football team. It is just a shame that it has become so divided. We need to encourage the immigrants to integrate with us, not the other way around. As it stands, neither side is showing any signs of give, no matter what new barking idea the politicians come up with. Can we not say “welcome to Britain, this is how us Britons act and behave”. If this does not suit you or even repulses you, then hop back onto the Boeing that brought you here and find somewhere more suitable. I don't want bigotry, I just want fairness and direction.
duke bar, burnley says...
4:56pm Sun 7 Jun 09
Back Room BEP wrote:Burnley folk voted for the BNP after the riots because they felt betrayed.
Are you all so out of touch with the town's people? Can it not be seen that people are voting BNP because they don't feel represented by the main stream parties. They feel ignored and many believe that they have become second class citizens due to positive discrimination. The fact that none of the Asians were jailed for their part in the race riots proves this. One of those caught up in the troubles even went on to become Justice Minister (Labour MP Shahid Malik), who might I add, very recentely stood down from this position before the investigation into expenses claims had time to find anything – any guesses why? The very fact that the report into the riots was fabricated also causes further isolation of the indigenous population of Burnley. To suggest it was caused by rival drug gangs was incredulous. How better to fuel the flames. People turning to the extreme right is due to the white inhabitants of Burnley seeing their very way of life being swept away from them. One less pub, one more mosque. You can’t brand people racist for this. They see the pendulum as swinging too far in one direction. No one wants to cause unnecessary suffering or evils, but they also don’t want to imagine their generations to come grow up somewhere that does not depict the same town that they had grown up in. The town itself is one of much natural beauty, set in the Pennine Valley, complemented by the Victorian architecture, with a strong sense of pride for the local football team. It is just a shame that it has become so divided. We need to encourage the immigrants to integrate with us, not the other way around. As it stands, neither side is showing any signs of give, no matter what new barking idea the politicians come up with. Can we not say “welcome to Britain, this is how us Britons act and behave”. If this does not suit you or even repulses you, then hop back onto the Boeing that brought you here and find somewhere more suitable. I don't want bigotry, I just want fairness and direction.
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Little Diamond, Darwen says...
8:30pm Thu 4 Jun 09